DiscoverThe Ryan Sullivan ShowWhy Small Podcasts Make The Most Money | Steven Bartlett is Broke, Ads vs. Services, and the Business Model That Makes You Rich
Why Small Podcasts Make The Most Money | Steven Bartlett is Broke, Ads vs. Services, and the Business Model That Makes You Rich

Why Small Podcasts Make The Most Money | Steven Bartlett is Broke, Ads vs. Services, and the Business Model That Makes You Rich

Update: 2025-09-29
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“The biggest podcasts don’t make the most money.”

In this episode, I break down why (and how) smaller, niche shows often out-earn mass-appeal giants.


We cover the real drivers of podcast revenue:


-audience value (specificity over size),

-monetization models (services vs. sponsorships),

-and business structure.


I run quick math on a top show’s public numbers, then show the path for creators who want profits without being ad-dependent.


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0:01 - Why LinkedIn is a goldmine (if you use it right)

0:21 - Play #1: Stop “selling,” educate instead

2:09 - Play #2: Don’t rely on one platform, ecosystems, not funnels

3:18 - Our numbers

4:38 - Play #3: Partnerships

7:05 - Keep partners sending leads: meaningful thanks > tiny commissions

7:36 - Episode wrap-up



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Why Small Podcasts Make The Most Money | Steven Bartlett is Broke, Ads vs. Services, and the Business Model That Makes You Rich

Why Small Podcasts Make The Most Money | Steven Bartlett is Broke, Ads vs. Services, and the Business Model That Makes You Rich